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Bedier: Islam, Religious Freedom & Afghan's Abdul Rahman
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Added: 6 months ago
From: bedier
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khpelwaki (6 months ago)
cool
khpelwaki (6 months ago)
Thanks for sharing
lildice64 (5 months ago)
abdul rahman should of been hanged. sharia only aplies to muslims, non muslims are allowed to worship how they want
humpala (4 months ago)
no he shouldn't be hanged! let Allah do the justice. you should try to be a better man by showing compassionate to other muslims- as a human being.
fightnwo (3 months ago)
ya exactly it is Allah's justice, God said apostates should be hanged just like rapists and murderers. apostasy is really being minimized by america n such but you should undestand how grave it realy is. abdul rahman left islam cos he was paid by missionaries when he worked wit the red cross
lonesoldiers (3 months ago)
I thought even scholars had different views on this yet people in here seem to know better?
fightnwo (3 months ago)
oh i forgot there is mercy on apostates they have time to repent
sotahra (3 months ago)
it true, but if ur a muslim u have to be all ur life well it my choice...
zubair1366 (3 months ago)
he may left Islam for money! people compare Islam with money, what a stupid man! i'm afghan,and i'm 17. personally, i feel ashamed, because how can a muslim can leave a religion like Islam anyway i don't care about him because it is his personal choice. For me my religion is stronger than everything and my IMAN is my treasure like every muslims. Some times i feel my self richer than bill gates.
noakhrot (3 months ago)
yo yo yo,,,whats wrong? didnt u here the quote from quran kill him if he changes..."close meaning"?
bedier (3 months ago)
noakhrot: There is not such verse in the Quran, you could not be further from the truth.
i left the strong cult in peshwar pakistan 4 years ago i am born again made new with the lord amen read the gospels people abz amen
pundit1234 (1 hour ago)
Could CAIR please refute this?: "Allah's Apostle said, The blood of a Muslim, who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." 9:83:17
bedier (1 hour ago)
Pundit1234: The Quran refutes any forced beliefs. Quran Chapter 2, verse 256 "..let there me no compulsion in religion." You cited (9:83:17) what is that exactly because it is not not the Quran. You need to reference the name of the book, in order to refute it directly.
Freedom to worship is found in the Quran in the following verses, detailed in the following message.
bedier (1 hour ago)
Pundit1234: The Quran refutes any forced beliefs. Quran Chapter 2, verse 256 "..let there me no compulsion in religion." You cited (9:83:17) what is that exactly because it is not not the Quran. You need to reference the name of the book, in order to refute it directly.
Freedom to worship is found in the Quran in the following verses, detailed in the following message.
bedier (1 hour ago)
Quranic verses confirming freedom of religion/belief:

"Let him who will, believe, and let him who will, reject (it) " (chapter 18/verse 129)

"Say, you have your faith and I have my faith."(Chapter 109/ verse 6)

"We have not sent you as a guard over them. Your duty is only to convey (The Message)". (chapter 42/verse 48)
salamallah (1 hour ago)
Bedier said, "Quran. You need to reference the name of the book, in order to refute it directly."

Sorry about that. This is from Sahih Bukhari, which is a compilation of the Hadith (sayings of Muhammad) that Muslims consider to be most reliable.
salamallah (1 hour ago)
All the Quranic verses bedier mentions are from Meccan suras which were introduced by Muhammad when he lived in Mecca and he had few followers. When he moved to Medina, he became more powerful and that's when the violent Medina Suras were introduced. Most Islamic theologians agree that the 'peaceful' verses about were abrogated by the verses of the sword, especially in Sura 9. More details to follow.
pundit1234 (1 hour ago)
From Answering-Islam:
Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi, the author of an-Nasikh wal-Mansukh, informs us that there are 114 verses that speak of tolerance in early Islam, but all were abrogated by one verse, "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them" (Q. 9:5), before the death of Mohammad.
All the [peaceful] verses have been abrogated by Q. 9:5.
pundit1234 (1 hour ago)
"Fight in the way of God with those who fight with you, but aggress not: God loves not the aggressors (2:190)".. Abil-'Aliyah who said: This is the first verse that was revealed in the Qur'an about fighting in the Madina. When it was revealed the prophet used to fight those who fight with him and avoid those who avoid him, until Sura 9 was revealed. And so is the opinion of 'Abd ar-Rahman Ibn Zayd Ibn 'Aslam who said this verse was cancelled by 9:5 "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them"
bedier (57 minutes ago)
Pundit1234: You referenced a radical anti-Muslim website "Answering-Islam" when trying to debating using Islamic reference try referencing authentic sources. Quran and Legal Tradition of the prophet.
pundit1234 (53 minutes ago)
Authentic sources that have abrogated peaceful verses (most scholars agree on this):

"Slay the idolaters wherever you find them" Quran 9:5

Allah's Apostle said, The blood of a Muslim, who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." Bukhari 9:83:17
pundit1234 (52 minutes ago)
And even if AI is anti-Muslim, so what? If it said 1+1 = 2, will you say it's not true? Why not refute the message instead of attacking the messenger?
pundit1234 (1 minute ago)
By the way: CAIR is well-funded by Saudi Arabia. In 2002, the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), that is supported by Saudi Arabia, announced its cooperation with CAIR on a $1 million PR campaign. In that same year, Saudi prince Al-Waleed bin Talal funded CAIR with $500,000.

Let's also not forget that Saudi King Fahd pledged $8 million to build a mosque at the Masjid Bilal Islamic Center at South Central Los Angeles.

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